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mccain and lindsay graham and kelly ayotte could hardly have gone worse. they were more inflamed about rice's early public comments about the benghazi, libya attack than they had been before that meeting. cnn's dana bash has been watching all of this prenomination confrontation drama and joins us now to talk about this. i know you're trying to wrangle an interview and make sure you catch the senators as they emerge from the meetings. dana, it might sound to some as though some of the critics of ambassador rice feel differently about what they're criticizing. they don't all seem to be in lock step or at least have the same complaints. >> reporter: that's true. no question that there are different levels of issues that senators are upset about. i have to tell you the reason i'm on the phone now is because i'm waiting for a very important meeting that susan rice is having as we speak to wrap up and that is with senator susan collins. why is it important? because if she is nominated to be secretary of state and assuming that the republicans she met with yester
mccain and lindsay graham and kelly ayotte could hardly have gone worse. they were more inflamed about rice's early public comments about the benghazi, libya attack than they had been before that meeting. cnn's dana bash has been watching all of this prenomination confrontation drama and joins us now to talk about this. i know you're trying to wrangle an interview and make sure you catch the senators as they emerge from the meetings. dana, it might sound to some as though some of the critics of...
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john mccain led the charge on benghazi. and they have a sense -- there's nothing you can do to a senator to keep them out of the loop. and there is a sense there that not only were they not told the truth, but the american people were not told the truth and they decided -- i mean the white house calls it an obsession. jay carney has called it an obsession. but i do believe that there are lots of republicans who don't want her to be the secretary of state. and whoever thought there would be a republican caucus to get john kerry -- gwen: well, if you're a member of the senate you're part of the club and that's probably what's going on. but i'm curious about the folks at the white house, mike, it seems to me the people at the white house are trying to decide if it's worth it. >> i don't often say this, because every time i think it i end up being wrong. but i think there's a visceral aspect of this. i think the president, when this came up in his first post-election press conference was genuinely upset. come after me, come aft
john mccain led the charge on benghazi. and they have a sense -- there's nothing you can do to a senator to keep them out of the loop. and there is a sense there that not only were they not told the truth, but the american people were not told the truth and they decided -- i mean the white house calls it an obsession. jay carney has called it an obsession. but i do believe that there are lots of republicans who don't want her to be the secretary of state. and whoever thought there would be a...
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mccain willing to endorse john kerry. that may be their sincere and honest opinion but why not answer i'm focused on benghazi and the investigation and not potential nominees for secretary of state, both eager to say they would support john kerry. why? >> well, look. republicans are still looking to punish the administration over benghazi. we know that. republicans think that president obama got a pass on benghazi during the election so there's some of that but one thing i would point out to you from senator collins' remarks is that she is still looking for answers from susan rice about a time in 1998 when she was in charge of the region and in the state department when our embassy in kenya was bombed so these senators are moving to a point of saying that susan rice may not be qualified to be secretary of state and i think that's an important thing to be looking at, going one step beyond. she's not qualified in their opinion. >> i get what you're saying there and if that's their opinion and they want to use, for example,
mccain willing to endorse john kerry. that may be their sincere and honest opinion but why not answer i'm focused on benghazi and the investigation and not potential nominees for secretary of state, both eager to say they would support john kerry. why? >> well, look. republicans are still looking to punish the administration over benghazi. we know that. republicans think that president obama got a pass on benghazi during the election so there's some of that but one thing i would point out...
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john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain went on fox news to try to continue to advance his theory of a massive white house cover-up of the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. senator mccain has been advancing this cover-up theory demanding answers. he appears to be tuning out those answers when they are provided to him. it is getting weirder and weirder over time. here, watch. >> who changed the talking points that were used by ambassador rice? that is a question senator mccain that we have the answer to. the intelligence agencies acknowledged last week that they were the ones
john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain...
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even john mccain, leading the charge against rice had high praise for john kerry on fox news yesterday. >> john kerry came within a whisker of being president of the united states. i think that works in his favor but i'd love to hear him make his case, but i don't have anything in his background like this tragedy in again gassy that would make me really want to carefully examine the whole situation. >> of course it doesn't hurt that if kerry took the job it would open up a senate seat that could go to republican scott brown who just lost his seat to elizabeth warren. joining me now to talk about the wrangling in washington and on the ground in massachusetts is he is square magazine political reporter charlie pierce. welcome back inside the war room. >> good evening governor, just what we here in massachusetts need another reason to think we're the center of the universe. >> well you are the center of your own universe. what does is pour tend that these moderate republicans are not onboard? >> it pour tends that susan collins is afraid of a tea party challenge and they've decided that t
even john mccain, leading the charge against rice had high praise for john kerry on fox news yesterday. >> john kerry came within a whisker of being president of the united states. i think that works in his favor but i'd love to hear him make his case, but i don't have anything in his background like this tragedy in again gassy that would make me really want to carefully examine the whole situation. >> of course it doesn't hurt that if kerry took the job it would open up a senate...
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president obama with john mccain in 2008. bush and clinton in '92. bush and dukakis in '88. carter and reagan in 198. oddly enough, though, bob there was one loser we couldn't find. turns out mondale, '84, lost to reagan. no pictures. what happened? >> bob: we didn't like to menu dand sided not to go. we expected an invitation and never got one. we did. >> eric: c'mon. >> eric: never got an invitation. i went through every president in 1980 -- >> bob: you think we snuck in the backdoor? we would have gone and got a picture. >> eric: i saw reagan and carter. >> bob: what do you think happen? >> brian: i hear they should have got together but reagan never liked carter. >> bob: never. >> brian: that stayed true. cart and ford got to be good friends but not until reagan was in office. >> eric: what do you think? would you love to be a fly on the wall? >> dana: they invited him to the office to have a lunch there. afterwards i was nosey, what was it like? what did you talk about? he said everybody asked about, talked about what it was like to raise children in the public eye. pre
president obama with john mccain in 2008. bush and clinton in '92. bush and dukakis in '88. carter and reagan in 198. oddly enough, though, bob there was one loser we couldn't find. turns out mondale, '84, lost to reagan. no pictures. what happened? >> bob: we didn't like to menu dand sided not to go. we expected an invitation and never got one. we did. >> eric: c'mon. >> eric: never got an invitation. i went through every president in 1980 -- >> bob: you think we snuck...
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john mccain has said the same thing, that he would not support confirming anyone, anyone for that job. the way he feels now. both senators saying they would prefer nobody had that job because of their upset over comments made on sunday morning talk shows by a member of the obama administration on the weekend after the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. republican senator susan collins has now decided that that administration official, u.n. ambassador susan rice, is someone she could not support for secretary of state if president obama nominates her for that job because susan rice chose to appear on those sunday shows at all, regardless of what she said there. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of a contentious presidential election campaign by agreeing to go on the sunday shows to present the administration's position. >> seriously. they're no longer even complaining about what she said. they're complaining that she went on a sunday show. so, therefore, she can't be secretary of
john mccain has said the same thing, that he would not support confirming anyone, anyone for that job. the way he feels now. both senators saying they would prefer nobody had that job because of their upset over comments made on sunday morning talk shows by a member of the obama administration on the weekend after the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. republican senator susan collins has now decided that that administration official, u.n. ambassador susan rice, is someone she could not...
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that's fine. >> joy-ann, last word. >> john mccain is driven by his resentments and his piques. the idea when he was beaten by george w. bush suddenly he became the thorn in bush's side. he has seemed to be driven by his personal animus towards barack obama president obama in his policy pronouncements. i have no belief that john mccain went into that meeting and wanted to come out with a fair assessment. that's his political calculation. the other thing for the republican party is look who they put out there to talk about their opposition to rice. they had to throw kelly ayotte out there with no foreign policy experience because even they understand going after this woman, going after this -- another african-american official in the obama white house, i know it's unpopular to say, but they seem to have a pattern that isn't helpful politically so i don't see what the margin is. >> senator ayotte has political m a bigg ambition. >> and she's a woman. >> our power panel, my thanks to all three of you. >>> we are waiting for remarks from president obama who is expected to speak from
that's fine. >> joy-ann, last word. >> john mccain is driven by his resentments and his piques. the idea when he was beaten by george w. bush suddenly he became the thorn in bush's side. he has seemed to be driven by his personal animus towards barack obama president obama in his policy pronouncements. i have no belief that john mccain went into that meeting and wanted to come out with a fair assessment. that's his political calculation. the other thing for the republican party is...
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senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte of new hampshire met privately with her today. it did not go well. listen. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. information given the american people was wrong. ambassador rice said it was wrong and to be clear, if you are an ambassador to the united nations you go well beyond the unclassified talking points in the daily preparation for that job. >> we are significantly troubled by the answers that many got. some we didn't get. >> she had no intention to mislead the american people. >> the white house blames the critics. listen. >> the focus on some might say the obsession on comments made on sunday shows seems to me and to many to be misplaced. >> the national shows get too much attention. are you surprised that ambassador rice didn't have a better explanation for her interview? >> dana: i got home last night and checked e-mail for the last time and saw she will have a meeting. i said they have it wrapped up. go in and smooth it over. you should have these things organized before you go to a meeting. you know
senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte of new hampshire met privately with her today. it did not go well. listen. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. information given the american people was wrong. ambassador rice said it was wrong and to be clear, if you are an ambassador to the united nations you go well beyond the unclassified talking points in the daily preparation for that job. >> we are significantly troubled by the answers that many got. some...
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this is part of the demise of john mccain. then, you have lindsey graham using this in his upcoming race for re-election. it is pretty disgusting stuff. >> it is the politics of personal destruction, no question about it. it is also distortion politics. not a whole lot of positive things for the republicans. they are really on the defensive. they are looking for something negative to put on the president. the president has twice supported susan rice. secretary clinton did that today. you can't get any more aggressive than that. >> some recent polling shows that where as americans don't like the way benghazi was handled, they don't think they were intentionally trying to mislead the people. they are trying to say the president did want us to know how bad the threat from al qaeda was. the decision was made to modify those talking points because we didn't want the enemy to know what was going on, not because there was an attempt to mislead the american people. >> there is a report out that ambassador susan rice has a major financ
this is part of the demise of john mccain. then, you have lindsey graham using this in his upcoming race for re-election. it is pretty disgusting stuff. >> it is the politics of personal destruction, no question about it. it is also distortion politics. not a whole lot of positive things for the republicans. they are really on the defensive. they are looking for something negative to put on the president. the president has twice supported susan rice. secretary clinton did that today. you...
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john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >> or could be a $50,000 cap or something even higher than that. now chris cizilla, let's talk about the lack of civility or the contentiousness of this susan rice situation where she's back on the hill today. let me play a little bit of susan collins, republican from maine, known as a moderate, discussing the possibility of a john kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and what she did, which was surprising to a lot of us watching, was she raise
john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >>...
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in john mccain's words promote rights for disabled people, including our own veterans overseas? >> first of all i don't think it was a stand against people with disabilities. it was a stand against this treaty. it was a stand against a united nations treaty. there were a number of concerns. i read the statements by both john mccain and also some of the other senators that voted against. they're not tea party senators as senator reid is describing them. they are thoughtful people who pay attention, senators like lindsey graham, marco rubio, republicans who give -- who give a great credence to things like sovereignty and don't want to give authority to the united nations. they want the americans with disabilities act to be the golden standard by which we guide our actions. >> but isn't the treaty worded in pretty much exactly the same way as the americans with disabilities act is? >> right, which begs the question, why give any power to the united nations? let me tell you, carol, i served as ambassador to the united nations human rights. it's a bureaucratic organization with very
in john mccain's words promote rights for disabled people, including our own veterans overseas? >> first of all i don't think it was a stand against people with disabilities. it was a stand against this treaty. it was a stand against a united nations treaty. there were a number of concerns. i read the statements by both john mccain and also some of the other senators that voted against. they're not tea party senators as senator reid is describing them. they are thoughtful people who pay...
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john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and i want to say -- >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was wrong, in fact, ambassador rice said today, absolutely it was wrong. >> drunk driving
john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video....
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kerry is friends with mccain and could do bipartisanship. look, we have big problems in pakistan, afghanistan, iran. the whole middle east is a tender box. it's time to get somebody like john kerry above the fold instead of everything being about susan rice and benghazi. >> let's look at some of the positions that are open. is there a potential here for the president to reach across the aisle? he's talked about ushering in a new bipartisanship. are there some new republicans that would be good choices, good picks for any one of the open cabinet picks? >> absolutely. franklin roosevelt did this. he picked secretary frank knox, both republicans. bob gates was kept as secretary of defense. somebody like including hag echl hagel would go very far. everybody on capitol hill likes him. >> is there anybody that you think would make a real impact, a real different approach, even a cabinet shakeup that would dramatically form what we are going to see in the second term for president obama? >> most important thing is president obama to put the best pe
kerry is friends with mccain and could do bipartisanship. look, we have big problems in pakistan, afghanistan, iran. the whole middle east is a tender box. it's time to get somebody like john kerry above the fold instead of everything being about susan rice and benghazi. >> let's look at some of the positions that are open. is there a potential here for the president to reach across the aisle? he's talked about ushering in a new bipartisanship. are there some new republicans that would be...
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. >>> and what's really behind john mccain's relentless and baseless attack on susan rice? former governor of new mexico and ambassador to the u.n., bill richardson, joins us live. >>> plus, remember this guy with the romney tattoo? he might just be the smartest man in the republican party today. >>> and we'll tell you what joe biden bought at costco today. you'll love this video. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >>> this is interesting. president obama is going to have lunch with mitt romney and you thought you had an awkward meal with your family on thanks giving. what i don't get is he said nobody should get a free lunch and now he's going to the white house to have a free lunch. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank, the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] while you're getting ready for the holidays, we're getting ready for you. tis the season. for food, for family, and n
. >>> and what's really behind john mccain's relentless and baseless attack on susan rice? former governor of new mexico and ambassador to the u.n., bill richardson, joins us live. >>> plus, remember this guy with the romney tattoo? he might just be the smartest man in the republican party today. >>> and we'll tell you what joe biden bought at costco today. you'll love this video. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >>> this is interesting....
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mccain saying that susan rice is not very smart. yeah stanford rhodes scholar. mccain finished bottom fifth in his class. how does he get to call susan rice not smart? i think he owes the taxpayers for the plane he lost and the five he lost during training. yeah. >> yikes. >> stephanie: you know he's the one who said his nickname was mcnasty. it's because he's getting old and bitter? no he's always been mean and nasty. >> his nickname should have been crash. lost five planes in training and he brought on sarah palin. >> stephanie: there is that his version of fart. democratsered areled to fight for rights, and democratic senate aide said people are happy to fight for her. this is getting people's back up up. this is ridiculous. she's obviously qualified. karl frisch was saying before the break, susan rice, they're saying this is a blow. she's expressing some concerns that she's a moderate. that was not a stretch that she blamed her for the 1990 bombing embassy in kenya when she was in the clinton administration. she said she could n
mccain saying that susan rice is not very smart. yeah stanford rhodes scholar. mccain finished bottom fifth in his class. how does he get to call susan rice not smart? i think he owes the taxpayers for the plane he lost and the five he lost during training. yeah. >> yikes. >> stephanie: you know he's the one who said his nickname was mcnasty. it's because he's getting old and bitter? no he's always been mean and nasty. >> his nickname should have been crash. lost five planes...
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but if you google grampy, if you google john mccain bitter, he continues to be a bitter old idiot. the second one that comes up, john mccain is long and bitter and he wants you off it among 3 million or so other results. so that's that. >> very troubled. very troubled troubling. [ mystical music ] >> stephanie: is susan rice responsible for anything else? she's apparently responsible for the 1998 bombing where she was an assistant. >> pearl harbor. >> something. >> she is responsible for the embassy bombings in africa. >> stephanie: sure sure. it's amazing what she had to say what "b" what a jim dandy idea that condoleezza rice was after she gave bad intelligence over and over again on a multitude of sunday shows and i'm going to guess on shows that are not on sunday, different days of the week. mushroom threat cover. mushroom cloud. smoking gun. >> it's the other rice. >> stephanie: exactly. >> sound byte: we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. >> stephanie: no that intelligence was perfect. thanks for sharing that. >> she used the presidential daily briefing for ki
but if you google grampy, if you google john mccain bitter, he continues to be a bitter old idiot. the second one that comes up, john mccain is long and bitter and he wants you off it among 3 million or so other results. so that's that. >> very troubled. very troubled troubling. [ mystical music ] >> stephanie: is susan rice responsible for anything else? she's apparently responsible for the 1998 bombing where she was an assistant. >> pearl harbor. >> something. >>...
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it's they are going to try again next year, including john mccain, but a lot of other republicans by in large conservatives, they hate the united nations, they don't trust the united nations. they don't want international law, in their words, to interfere with domestic laws in the united states, whether federal law, state, or local laws. and one of the most recent major reasons why they rejected this treaty, these republicans by in large voted again ratifying this treaty was because of the powerful words that rick santorum, the former republican presidential candidate said. as you know, he has a severely disabled child, a little girl. he said, i don't want international lawyers, i don't want the united nations and new york and foreign countries telling me and our local officials what they can or cannot do as far as treatment for little bella, his daughter. and that was a powerful factor in convincing a lot of these republicans to reject this treaty. they didn't see that they needed the international community, in effect, to get involved in what was going on here in the united states.
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party people who are demanding an end to earmarks, there was john mccain, and very little -- one of the calls mitt romney ended up having that republicans are still having today. >> the one i can think of is a possibility of capping the deductions people can take. that's something he proposed late. it seems like republicans want to forget very quickly what happened. but we will not forget yet because there is some level still we're three and a half weeks from the election, some level of postmortem. a lead strategist for romney wrote an op-ed in "the washington post" earlier this week calling romney's campaign that he did the right thing. he ran the right campaign. he was the right man for the right time. that his campaign became a national movement. those are his words not mine. a republican strategist, i want to show you what she tweeted. here is what she tweeted. she said, agree with stuart stevens. romney's campaign was a national movement. latinos and women across the nation moved as far as they could from him. obviously mocking. why is stuart stevens doing this? he's been doing
party people who are demanding an end to earmarks, there was john mccain, and very little -- one of the calls mitt romney ended up having that republicans are still having today. >> the one i can think of is a possibility of capping the deductions people can take. that's something he proposed late. it seems like republicans want to forget very quickly what happened. but we will not forget yet because there is some level still we're three and a half weeks from the election, some level of...
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> chris: but susan rice is a pretty steady hand and i'm not saying john mccain and graham aren't but she -- >> what interested me is susan collins, if the republicans choose to filibuster the nomination you need five republican votes and susan collins has to be one and the fact that she is expressing reservations is concerning, but i think, ambassador rice is getting a bum rap on that, and i encourage my republican colleagues talking about weapons of mass destruction in iraq, before the iraq war, to have a little humility in terms of making public statements that turn out to, in the light of all the evidence, have been less than accurate and anybody who would have come on the show, the secretary of defense, state, head of the cia would have been in a similar situation and the real question is, is there evidence of intentional deception and any evidence of a political cover-up and to do it there is not and we ought to focus on why the security is so poor is that facility... >> chris:... make a mistake taking on the fight? >> he's on the horns of a dilemma here, if he doesn't nominate
> chris: but susan rice is a pretty steady hand and i'm not saying john mccain and graham aren't but she -- >> what interested me is susan collins, if the republicans choose to filibuster the nomination you need five republican votes and susan collins has to be one and the fact that she is expressing reservations is concerning, but i think, ambassador rice is getting a bum rap on that, and i encourage my republican colleagues talking about weapons of mass destruction in iraq, before...
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and as much as daryl issa and john mccain have been trying to get answers from the fbi and the cia and the intelligence committee and all of those other things, we have to go through susan rice. before we can work on preventing this from happening again, we have to agree on what exactly happened. and we don't fully know and we need to find out. >> i appreciate a lot of your position. if this was really about consulate security and what happened that day for a lot of these people, i would find that extremely valid. these are important questions. nobody wants this to happen again. it is completely a tragedy. but what we have is talking point police attacking susan rice because of what she said on the shows. look. they -- all these senators know the intelligence that she got. they know she was briefed by the intelligence community to say this. they know there's no duplicity. she was told what to say and whatnot to say. there's this bizarre kabuki theaters a foekt this. if it's above politics, it's attacking obama and the intelligence community. susan rice is not the doorway in to that. ob
and as much as daryl issa and john mccain have been trying to get answers from the fbi and the cia and the intelligence committee and all of those other things, we have to go through susan rice. before we can work on preventing this from happening again, we have to agree on what exactly happened. and we don't fully know and we need to find out. >> i appreciate a lot of your position. if this was really about consulate security and what happened that day for a lot of these people, i would...
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in 2008, john mccain and president obama had a similar lunch and you see how that took us. been perhaps the sharpest critic of barack obama since then. so i don't see them as emerging as very close friends. the second point -- >> in modern times, mitt has not returned to washington for a job. so mitt romney went home whereas other presidential losers have gone back to d.c. to go back to work like a mccain. >> i agree, but it doesn't necessarily mean -- i'm not sure the lunch will help the relationship. it seems to have been worse after the election than before in some ways. the other thing is it would be useful for obama if mitt romney had any pull with actual rops. it's not clear to me if mitt romney endorsed the fiscal cliff deal whether that would make any difference with a sorry. republicans don't really care what mitt romney thinks at this point. so i'm not sure if he has any pull that will make a difference after this meeting even if he and barack obama do become allies. >> do you have expectations? >> it may be a case of keep your trends close and your enemies closer
in 2008, john mccain and president obama had a similar lunch and you see how that took us. been perhaps the sharpest critic of barack obama since then. so i don't see them as emerging as very close friends. the second point -- >> in modern times, mitt has not returned to washington for a job. so mitt romney went home whereas other presidential losers have gone back to d.c. to go back to work like a mccain. >> i agree, but it doesn't necessarily mean -- i'm not sure the lunch will...
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a news commentator accusing senator john mccain of racism in his dealings with u.n. ambassador susan rice. is this explosive charge out of bounds? our news watch panel takes a closer look at that. >>> plus, a new president getting set to take over in the mexico as violence and bloodshed soars in a brutal war with the drug cartels. can he get a handle on this growing problem just south of our border? we'll take a closer look next. and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. jenna: well, right now mexico is getting ready for a changing of the guard. tomorrow enrique peÑa nieto will become president to our neighbor to the south, and you see him mee
a news commentator accusing senator john mccain of racism in his dealings with u.n. ambassador susan rice. is this explosive charge out of bounds? our news watch panel takes a closer look at that. >>> plus, a new president getting set to take over in the mexico as violence and bloodshed soars in a brutal war with the drug cartels. can he get a handle on this growing problem just south of our border? we'll take a closer look next. and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male...
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. >> no, but john mccain still had his senate seat. mitt romney didn't carry massachusetts, california, or his home state and there's no such thing as a romney republic anymore. he doesn't have any power. so he's coming today obama looked good because he's sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship that he's trying to create throughout all of this gridlock. >> matt, are they still stunned? i have to tell you, i watch this stuff from 7:00 until midnight. i'm constantly trying to figure this thing out. i thought it was much more pro-obama. he won a very solid victory and mandate. are they still stunned by that? >> yeah. in some respects, they are, to grapple with what happened and how their expectations got so high. >> stu stevens thinks that. we're all trying to figure that out. what happened here? >> i think there is a bit of that. and rahm himself, the data guy, going through the numbers trying to figure out what happened himself. i think he will be doing that for a while. i think he still thinks about this an awful lo
. >> no, but john mccain still had his senate seat. mitt romney didn't carry massachusetts, california, or his home state and there's no such thing as a romney republic anymore. he doesn't have any power. so he's coming today obama looked good because he's sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship that he's trying to create throughout all of this gridlock. >> matt, are they still stunned? i have to tell you, i watch this stuff from 7:00 until midnight. i'm...
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but, you know, john mccain still had his senate seat and john kerry still was in the senate so there's still players in washington. you're looking at mitt romney, he didn't carry new hampshire, massachusetts, or california, his home states. there is no such thing as a romney republican anymore. they're a dwindling tribe. he doesn't have any power. he's coming today, obama looked good because he was showing a reaching out, the winner sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship he's trying to create through the gridlock. >> matt, are they still stunned? i watch this from 7:00 in the morning until i go to bed at midnight. i thought the election was much more pro-obama in the results than i expect. won a strong victory, a solid mandate. are they stunned by that? >> yeah, in some respects they are and trying to grapple with what happened and how their expectations got so high and how they felt -- >> stu stevens right now think tonight we're trying to figure that out. are they still going to the tea leaves? what happened here? >> there's a bit of that. romney, himself, the dat
but, you know, john mccain still had his senate seat and john kerry still was in the senate so there's still players in washington. you're looking at mitt romney, he didn't carry new hampshire, massachusetts, or california, his home states. there is no such thing as a romney republican anymore. they're a dwindling tribe. he doesn't have any power. he's coming today, obama looked good because he was showing a reaching out, the winner sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship...
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and john mccain is right. that the gop absolutely has to change the way that they reach out to the changing demographics of this country. latinos, african-americans, women. but it's going to take a lot more than just talking about a new agenda. and it will have to be a new agenda. they actually have to reflect what this country looks like. so when you have john boehner basically leading the house of representatives with virtually all white men in leadership positions, and as i understand it, the position that candice miller now has is pretty much a consolation prize and it happened after all the of the news that all white men are going to be in leadership positions, that goes to an issue of credibility and women look at the house and latinos and african-americans and they say nobody there looks like me, they don't understand me, they're not going to know thousand govern to what my interests are. that's a big problem. >> but randi, republicans never get credit from the media when they do have a diverse roster o
and john mccain is right. that the gop absolutely has to change the way that they reach out to the changing demographics of this country. latinos, african-americans, women. but it's going to take a lot more than just talking about a new agenda. and it will have to be a new agenda. they actually have to reflect what this country looks like. so when you have john boehner basically leading the house of representatives with virtually all white men in leadership positions, and as i understand it,...
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today's meetings come after a first round of talks with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. and those meetings as we first reported to you yesterday did not appear to go very well. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more. >> reporter: thank you, jenna. ambassador rice is meeting two more republicans senators bob corker and susan collins. you're looking at stakeout position on capitol hill. ambassador rice is expected to meet with six senators. if she is nominated as next secretary of state she will need six republicans to vote for her to region the magic number of 60 for confirmation. so far republicans are not convinced. >> yesterday in talking to some of those to whom she talked i'm absolutely convinced in my mind bill, she is part of the cover-up. she knew all the time the cia information that was given to her. >> reporter: senators graham, mccain and ayotte tellingers after yesterday's meeting that the information let them more disturbed and not reassured about rice's benghazi comments that which portrayed the a tack as
today's meetings come after a first round of talks with senators john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte. and those meetings as we first reported to you yesterday did not appear to go very well. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more. >> reporter: thank you, jenna. ambassador rice is meeting two more republicans senators bob corker and susan collins. you're looking at stakeout position on capitol hill. ambassador rice is expected to meet...
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and it's a moment senator john mccain now claims may be the last warning washington gets. cnn's senior international correspondent arwa damon is inside syria right now where the fighting rages on. >> reporter: aleppo's old city has not seen such devastation since occupied by the mongol invaders eight centuries ago. this mosque for example dates back to 1315. this is syria's rich cultural heritage. and now everywhere we look it's been scarred by war. once bustling winding streets now a maze of ever-shifting front lines. overhead, the thundering of fighter jets. a small han lodging for caravans lies in ruins. for more than three millennia aleppo has been a cross roads for traders. we hurried through the courtyard of a traditional home. sheets are strung across streets to block snipers' line of sight. those who dare venture quickly across. a unit of fighters records people's names and license plates. only those who have shops here are allowed through. abu bashir says they're trying to clamp down on robberies. he shows us the list. the highlighted names have cleared out all th
and it's a moment senator john mccain now claims may be the last warning washington gets. cnn's senior international correspondent arwa damon is inside syria right now where the fighting rages on. >> reporter: aleppo's old city has not seen such devastation since occupied by the mongol invaders eight centuries ago. this mosque for example dates back to 1315. this is syria's rich cultural heritage. and now everywhere we look it's been scarred by war. once bustling winding streets now a...
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there is a meeting between president obama and senator john mccain. there are a few photos like this but it is an interesting lunch. we're not going to see it though. if we see it it will be an official photo release. we won't get a camera in the room. we know what it isn't. it isn't public. it is not an offer a cabinet post. jay carney made that clear and it is not a beer summit. >> bill: it could be an o'doul summit. >> or a milk sum et. -- summit. >> the president said both on election night and then at a press conference a week later he wanted to talk to mitt romney saying that he thought he had some good ideas saying that maybe his of his management experience running the salt lake city could be applied to streamlining the federal government. >> bill: i heard the president say that. i thought he was just sort of making nice, right? but then he for actually followed through and invited him to lunch. >> mitt romney got a lot of applause for the way he handled the salt lake city olympics. he turned a wretched enterprise into a success. >> bill: with
there is a meeting between president obama and senator john mccain. there are a few photos like this but it is an interesting lunch. we're not going to see it though. if we see it it will be an official photo release. we won't get a camera in the room. we know what it isn't. it isn't public. it is not an offer a cabinet post. jay carney made that clear and it is not a beer summit. >> bill: it could be an o'doul summit. >> or a milk sum et. -- summit. >> the president said both...
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you've seen some republican senators, senator mccain, today senator collins saying john kerry would be an excellent choice and easily confirmed. >> they would like to confirm their own members. some critics have talked about her personality that shoost too abrasive, too tough, what do you think? >> well, she does have sharp elbows. she is considered someone in washington to be blunt. she's had notorious spats with hillary clinton, richard holbrook when he was ambassador to the united nations. and she also had tough criticism for hillary clinton, inflammatory language for john mccain running against president obama. and twitter lately talking about syria and talking about china and russia saying she's disgusted. but her supporters say, listen, she is a tough talker. but you know where you stand with susan rice. and she doesn't mess around. but they also say she's surprisingly down to earth. and she they say has taken the high road with this whole issue with benghazi. she isn't using inflammatory language that's been used with her and others. >> there's a question if the president does n
you've seen some republican senators, senator mccain, today senator collins saying john kerry would be an excellent choice and easily confirmed. >> they would like to confirm their own members. some critics have talked about her personality that shoost too abrasive, too tough, what do you think? >> well, she does have sharp elbows. she is considered someone in washington to be blunt. she's had notorious spats with hillary clinton, richard holbrook when he was ambassador to the...
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mccain for president and would designain 2. lieberman said obama had not yet reached across party lines to accomplish anything significant or taken on powerful interest groups in the democratic party to get something done. lieberman, who was represented connecticut in the senate for 24 years, the past six as an independent, will retire when his term ends in january. as he departs, he says he wishes that the party he left amid disagreements over the iraq war would return to its roots as a party of foreign policy and national security. next call, anniston, alabama, republican. caller: good morning. i am calling because i'm tired of teh fact that -- the legal situation, the fact that child support -- the food stamp situation, it does not seem like as americans are being fair because then you wonder why our money is being misplaced. and then you wonder why, myself in alabama, i have to try my hardest to see about getting help because there is no jobs. i have to try my hardest about trying to get food assistance. i should not have t
mccain for president and would designain 2. lieberman said obama had not yet reached across party lines to accomplish anything significant or taken on powerful interest groups in the democratic party to get something done. lieberman, who was represented connecticut in the senate for 24 years, the past six as an independent, will retire when his term ends in january. as he departs, he says he wishes that the party he left amid disagreements over the iraq war would return to its roots as a party...
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john mccain even voted for it. there they are. >> blue helmets and black helicopters everywhere you look. >> stephanie: you know what? what a perfect day to have spongebob squarepants on the show with a message for republicans. ♪ spongebob here ♪ ♪ kris means presents and mistletoe ♪ ♪ sharing and caring ♪ ♪ during this season, please, don't be a jerk ♪ ♪ bring joy to the world it's the thing to do ♪ ♪ the world does not revolve around you ♪ ♪ don't be a jerk ♪ ♪ it's christmas ♪ ♪ there's a sign above the line that says express ♪ ♪ that means ten items or less ♪ ♪ don't be a jerk ♪ ♪ it's christmas ♪ ♪ don't you screen my calls ♪ ♪ don't you wreck my house when you deck the halls ♪ >> stephanie: all right. tomkinny joins us in about 20 minutes. the original song, don't be a [ bleep ], it's christmas. >> stephanie: a male organ. >> don't be a richard. >> stephanie: little message for the entire republican party. speaking of which. [ ♪ "world news tonight" â™
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those senators, john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte, were not satisfied, they said, with the ambassador's explanation for her comments following the benghazi consulate attack. cnn foreign affairs reporter elise labott has more details for us. she's in washington, d.c. this morning. elise, good morning. >> hey, soledad. well, what came out in those meetings and why senators say they're even more concerned, centers around the information that the cia had just after the attack about possible involvement in the benghazi attack that killed ambassador chris stevens and those three other americans. now, ambassador rice did not make reference to this information in her talk show appearances. the unclassified talking points she used were provided by the cia, were stripped of these references to al qaeda, because the information was classified and couldn't be delivered in public. now, after the meeting, ambassador rice acknowledged those talking points turned out to be incorrect. but that she stressed she and the administration never meant to mislead the american people. and what the senators are s
those senators, john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte, were not satisfied, they said, with the ambassador's explanation for her comments following the benghazi consulate attack. cnn foreign affairs reporter elise labott has more details for us. she's in washington, d.c. this morning. elise, good morning. >> hey, soledad. well, what came out in those meetings and why senators say they're even more concerned, centers around the information that the cia had just after the attack about...
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a little exchange between john mccain and john kerry earlier today. watch this. >> senator mccain? >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> i think thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here. we're just having fun. >> so here's the serious question, though, i'll start, james, with you, once again. who do you think would be a better secretary of state? would it be john kerry, the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, or susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations? >> i honestly have no idea. i would say john kerry because i know senator kerry. i don't know if i've met ambassador rice before. but to be honest with you, both of them are imminently qualified people. i can't imagine either one of them would do anything other than a spectacular job. but i'm a political guy, not a foreign policy guy. i'm just unable to really render a very knowledgeable -- >> let me rephrase the question. politically speaking, who would the president be better off nominating? >> politically speaking? probably ambassador rice because sh
a little exchange between john mccain and john kerry earlier today. watch this. >> senator mccain? >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> i think thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here. we're just having fun. >> so here's the serious question, though, i'll start, james, with you, once again. who do you think would be a better secretary of state? would it be john kerry, the chairman of the senate foreign relations...
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meanwhile, four years ago you invited john mccain and barak obama to sit down with you. you had a lovely forum. this time we didn't do it. >> i felt there was too much emphasis on the negative. rather than either team promoting a solid vision, they were more just saying the other guy is a jerk. and i thought that's not civil and the whole purpose was to promote civility. i didn't think it was appropriate. >> steve: do you think you'll try it again in four years? >> i might. but i decided to do a national congress on religious liberty because these are being slowly eroded away. so in april, we're gog do a national congress on that instead. >> steve: all right. if people want to follow you on twitter, what's your hash tag. >> at rick warren. if you're not following me on twitter, you're going to hell. [ laughter ] >> steve: that's pretty definitive. ten years old, 60 million people read your book. thank you very much. >> thanks. good to see you. >> steve: next up, is it normal for your husband or boyfriend to still talk to his ex? keith ablow is on the case next. first on
meanwhile, four years ago you invited john mccain and barak obama to sit down with you. you had a lovely forum. this time we didn't do it. >> i felt there was too much emphasis on the negative. rather than either team promoting a solid vision, they were more just saying the other guy is a jerk. and i thought that's not civil and the whole purpose was to promote civility. i didn't think it was appropriate. >> steve: do you think you'll try it again in four years? >> i might....
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. >> reporter: senator john mccain was a young naval person when that happened. >> we had targets and we had weapons and we were ready to go. >> reporter: fast forward 40 years. the enterprise was heading home on september 11th 2001. >> it is like here i am, i'm many, many thousands away. my nation is being attacked by terrorists in a very devastating way. >> reporter: he is now the navy's top officer but was captain of the ship that day. without formal orders, he helped to turn the enterprise around 180 degrees, and race back into the arabian sea, where they launched jet. >> and we're working with these bombs. >> reporter: and even now that it sailed its last mission, the enterprise still has something to teach the navy. >> it is important that we know how to do this, and we know how to finish what we started and know how the take apart a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. >> reporter: not only safely, but cheaply. as the first of its kind, the enterprise is a test. >> the carriers will follow what we learn how to do on the enterprise. >> reporter: this is older itself than the united
. >> reporter: senator john mccain was a young naval person when that happened. >> we had targets and we had weapons and we were ready to go. >> reporter: fast forward 40 years. the enterprise was heading home on september 11th 2001. >> it is like here i am, i'm many, many thousands away. my nation is being attacked by terrorists in a very devastating way. >> reporter: he is now the navy's top officer but was captain of the ship that day. without formal orders, he...
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what do you think of john mccain calling you mr. secretary? >> well, what did he think of me calling him mr. president, sometimes we fool around up here, and nobody takes it too seriously. >> i'm going to take it seriously, see what happens down the road. >> senator, always good to speak to you, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> good to be with you. thanks. >>> let's go to jessica yellin, she's getting new information about the fiscal cliff stand-off, what are you learning? >> reporter: i'm learning that president obama and house speaker john boehner had a phone conversation late today. we do not have a fiscal deal. there's been no significant movement as a result of this, it's meaningful, the two men have not spoken in a week exactly. their last phone call was last wednesday, as you know, speaker boehner presented a plan on monday and after that was rejected by the president. in an interview, there was no communication between the white house and republicans until this phone call between these two men. wolf, this comes the same day that secret
what do you think of john mccain calling you mr. secretary? >> well, what did he think of me calling him mr. president, sometimes we fool around up here, and nobody takes it too seriously. >> i'm going to take it seriously, see what happens down the road. >> senator, always good to speak to you, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> good to be with you. thanks. >>> let's go to jessica yellin, she's getting new information about the fiscal cliff stand-off, what...
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we're going to join with those on the other side -- senators john mccain, senator lindh did i, rubio, rand paul, and senator jeff flake who have expressed an interest in this issue to make sure we move forward in a bipartisan fashion to try to finally find a solution to immigration reform. let me close by thanking senators kyl and senator kay bailey hutchison. yesterday they introduced the achieve act, which has been called the republican version of the dream act. i've worked with them for a long time. we share many of the same ideas. we have some differences. i have some concerns, but i really appreciate that senator kyl and senator hutchison have come forward with this proposal -- the presiding officer: the senator's time has expired. mr. durbin: i ask two additional minutes, please. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. durbin: i'm sorry that i won't have the chance to work with these two senators on these measures because they're retiempleg buretiring. but i hope we can build on what they've offered in a bipartisan fashion. let me point out two major concerns with the cay
we're going to join with those on the other side -- senators john mccain, senator lindh did i, rubio, rand paul, and senator jeff flake who have expressed an interest in this issue to make sure we move forward in a bipartisan fashion to try to finally find a solution to immigration reform. let me close by thanking senators kyl and senator kay bailey hutchison. yesterday they introduced the achieve act, which has been called the republican version of the dream act. i've worked with them for a...